Posts by Anony Mous

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Watchtower SlangJamaican Patois: Gods son came fe mash up the world😂

by Diogenesister in

🤦‍♀️this 25 million different languages thing is getting ridiculous.

this link is hilarious!

they've only gone and translated into jamaican patois and boy this isn't just translation, they're literally using slang....what next?

Anony Mous

@slimboyfat: I look forward to seeing more translations of WTBTS literature in other politically charged written conlangs:

Ebonics; Scots; Irish; Esperanto; Toki Pona; Klingon; Flemish; Walloon; High Valerian

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

@elderberry: what other belief system sacrifices their children on the issue of blood? What other belief system lets their children be molested when there are no two witnesses? What belief system tears apart families through shunning, kidnapping, parental fraud and adoptive fraud? Because those are the things the organization makes itself guilty on, that is the direction the followers get from elders, CO and the branch office.

And JW don’t study the Bible, you “study” WTBTS literature.

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The Share of Religious Americans will continue to decline- New York Times. Why? New Pew Study

by Balaamsass2 in

locally, in northern california i have seen/heard a drop in jw and mainstream church attendance especially in person attendance.

(exception: a new creepy local new-age charismatic/pentecostal group: "bethel church" 11,000 and growing mega church(kundalini yoga/sex combined with prosperity gospel, trumpism, guns, rock music, dancing, glitter, speaking in tongues, and faith healing).. for me this paragraph sums it up regarding jehovah's witnesses: " ...smith described organized religion to me as having become a “polluted” idea in the american mainstream, because of the publicity around sex abuse scandals and financial malfeasance in many different faiths in the ’80s and ’90s as millennials came of age.

“the scandals violated most of the virtues believed to make religion good,” smith wrote.

Anony Mous

In regards the membership differences, it’s well known in religious leadership that more people are attending but fewer people become members or tie themselves to a particular church.

As far as the nature of increasing, more young people and Democrats have been attending church, many are indeed trying to get away from religious extremism on their side. Republicans on the other hand have been leaving the classic church, especially in blue districts as churches have in many cases betrayed their own standards in the hope of gaining followers in the last few decades.

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The point of existence and how it refutes the Trinity

by slimboyfat in

rowan williams, the former archbishop of canterbury gave an interesting answer to the somewhat stark question, what’s the point of us existing?

as a christian, my starting point is that we exist because the most fundamental form of activity, energy, call it what you like, that is there, is love.

that is, it’s a willingness that the other should be.

Anony Mous

@SB: the story that Jesus was resurrected in the flesh was highly disputed, even the Bible makes mention that people didn’t believe it and that was with supposed eye witnesses.

Find me any non-biblical source for the un/supernatural events that surrounded the death of Jesus, you’d think somewhere in the world someone would’ve written about an unplanned solar eclipse, zombies or earthquakes. The Chinese, Mayans and Persians were all capable to calculate a solar eclipse at that point and made very detailed observations throughout the eras… crickets about that in their writings.

Do you believe Dionysus was resurrected? Because that is where the story comes from and a lot more people back then believed in the Greek mythology over a Jewish sect.

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

Anony Mous

@carla: this is exactly true. I’m moving from atheist to agnostic/cultural Christianity, not baptized in the church nor member, and the pastor shook my hand today and congratulated me on my being accepted on a church committee. This would NEVER happen in JW-land.

@elderberry: what you call JW lite is not new. It is the position of almost every single elder with family or every single rich JW I’ve ever known over the past 40 years - rules for thee but not for me.

I’ve known people that have worked with Michael Jackson and reportedly MJ and his mother and a lot of the Jackson family was raised if not baptized JW, as are the Williams sisters as well who not so long ago posed nude on a retail magazine. I’ve known an elder 20 years ago, he owned a huge road construction and equipment rental business you may have heard of, had a contract with the US RBC. I’ve visited with the Vogel family who have a huge retail homeopathy empire (and are all JW, source their employees from to the local branch office in the Netherlands).

Guess what was common with all those people: they were rich, they all had fancy cars, them or their kids all got positions as elder or branch/circuit overseer, them or their kids rarely went in service (and don’t think about using their 9-seat SUV for service, no, it was me in my rusty ‘97 Buick), their visits to the KH were sporadic at best (like you and me would’ve gotten counseled), and they took the rules rather unserious, if you were on the ‘in’ at least their pool party get-togethers were not even moral by ‘worldly’ standards, they were like Hollywood depictions of college frat parties, their daughters got unexpectedly pregnant etc. But they never get into trouble because they were rich and that’s what it is all about when you go deeper into the cult, just like the Scientologists or the Mormons.

I have been ‘deep’ in the organization, as you can see from some of my leaks I did a long time ago. I pin the blame on the JW organization because their policies are the cause of many issues that continue hurting people to date, including myself and my family, that is not a subjective reality, I can quote you the things I was told, I have published here the “Protecting children from the misuse of blood” handout that the WTBTS denies the existence of in court. What you’re basically saying is that Jews just wanted to pin the blame on the Nazis for their troubles during WW2, ‘they may be right’ - like WTF, you’re tone deaf.

I’m not calling you out on your belief, it truly doesn’t matter to me whether you believe the explanation of the Bible verses, that’s irrelevant. I’ve changed my position on that many times over the years. I’m calling you out on your actions or lack thereof which speaks to your objective moral depravity which may not be your fault, you were shaped like that as well by the organization, but you have to recognize when something is wrong, and then do something about it. You don’t seem to be mature enough to understand the damage caused yet, but you’re an elder, you are legally going to be held responsible for your congregation, be very careful if you’re going to continue pursuing this lifestyle.

You can read my history, including my recent history, I’m now in a position where I would be rich and an elder as well, I could’ve done what you do and shut my mouth and raise my kids in the same way as some of the elders I have known over the past decades. But I could not live with myself, once the handout “Protect your children from the misuse of blood” was given to me, I was told by the elders the various ‘outs’ to the rules - have your child removed from your custody, say it was a lapse of judgment, just don’t tell anyone etc. I’m not sure if you ever had to do the spiel with any new expecting parents, but I could not live with myself doing that. I was counseled once for trying to console a mother who had just lost her baby and uterus, but she was poor, she was reprimanded for ending the pregnancy. I tried to do the right thing and got called out for it. That’s why I tell you: try to do the right thing for once and see how far you make it. The JW org is not about helping people, it’s about controlling people and it’s about power and money, unlike most churches.

And all the above is why I say: JW Lite is not new, it’s just what elders and higher ups consider JW to be, but like a pyramid scheme, you need a vast majority of underlings (there is ~1 elder to 20 ‘lower level’ true believer people) that suffer and pay up with their assets and their life for you to be so cozy.

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WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.

so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.

even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.

Anony Mous

@longhairgal: you are spot on but this has happened generation after generation. I’m the 3rd generation JW, 2nd gen raised-in. We each expected 1975, then 2000, not sure what people have been looking forward to, 2014, 2024, 2034? I have never known any 4th and 5th gens out there, the disillusion affects families quickly, but they keep promising and failing new victims.

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Watchtower SlangJamaican Patois: Gods son came fe mash up the world😂

by Diogenesister in

🤦‍♀️this 25 million different languages thing is getting ridiculous.

this link is hilarious!

they've only gone and translated into jamaican patois and boy this isn't just translation, they're literally using slang....what next?

Anony Mous

@slimboyfat:

Jamaican Creole (which has many versions, every parish in Jamaica has different words) is a spoken, phonetic dialect, it has no official written rules, although someone created a written system for it, the same word written can mean different things based on region and sound inflection. The official language of Jamaica is standard English.

The translation of the New Testament was done by a Lutheran ministry. The flag on the Bible was placed as a sign of Jamaican independence and national pride and by the publishers, the whole project is a movement in the political sphere to make Jamaican Patois the official language of Jamaica. Very few things are written in Jamaican Patois, most of the literary work in this language thus far is by activists.

That is why this is so ‘weird’, they’re putting themselves in the political fight that is the relatively recent movement (comparable to BLM/Antifa in US) to have Jamaica shed association with its global (African, European and Caribbean) roots and replace “oppressive” standard English with a variation of its “liberated” or to some “slave” language. Note that not all Jamaicans agree that this is “proper” or the future or that you should even standardize an unwritten Creole language.

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Watchtower SlangJamaican Patois: Gods son came fe mash up the world😂

by Diogenesister in

🤦‍♀️this 25 million different languages thing is getting ridiculous.

this link is hilarious!

they've only gone and translated into jamaican patois and boy this isn't just translation, they're literally using slang....what next?

Anony Mous

Never thought I would see this on JW.org:

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

Anony Mous

There are so many bad things in this world and everyone wants to pin the blame somewhere.
Satan is convenient if you believe that. I’m agnostic which means it may be true or it may not be.
You win some you lose some.

That is probably the most callous comment I’ve seen since leaving the JW in response to comments about you calling out the fact that you are supporting an evil organization, children losing their innocence to child predators enabled by the JW org and families being torn apart.You truly prove you don’t care about anyone but yourself and you’re just an elder that doesn’t want to lose his position of power but still wants to profit from ‘this world’, just like most elders I have known in my past - Pharisees.

Trust me, your friends aren’t true friends, even your wife may not truly love you more than she does them. In ‘the world’ you can have true friends when there is no demands that keep you together.

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I was going to write a new topic ... but now I just can't be bothered

by no-zombie in

i was going to write a new topic but now i just can't be bothered ... and i'll tell you why.. on my facebook feed a few days ago, i saw an interview of a couple of onlyfans girls, who said that they were active christians that attended church weekly.

and while i was going to spend some time writing about the virtues of our faith's strict moral standards ... i now understand that i'd only be flamed as a watchtower apologist.. that being said, out of the approximately 4 million onlyfan girls out there ... it obvious, that none are jehovah's witnesses..

Anony Mous

I don’t agree that morals are subjective, that would mean we should accept the fact JW org breeds immorality.

I wouldn’t want my daughters to do OnlyFans, it may bring in a lot of money now, but eventually your beauty and fame runs out and that happens rather quickly. And then you have to live with the consequences, paid security or looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life if you’ve been somewhat famous isn’t cheap. If you do engage in prostitution with some of your highest paying members, who will want to have a stable relationship and kids with you later.

Most people have a rather objective sense of morality, wasting your life for short gains isn’t worth it.